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Interfaith Dialogue & Radical Orthodoxy

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Adam Cleaveland has an interesting post on what interfaith dialogue is and is not:

Many believe that it is a polite meeting where the depths of our respective faiths are set aside in the name of easy tolerance. But this is a misconception. Genuine encounter and dialogue is a meeting of the deepest levels of our respective faiths, where we bear witness to what of the spirit and of God has been given to us. This we do not for the sake of persuading the other that we are right and they are wrong, but for the sake of bearing witness to what each has experienced and knows of the One who is beyond. When we meet in this way, when the dialogue goes this deeply, then both parties can grow not only in their own faith but in their recognition of the validity of the other.” [quoting M. Darrol Bryant, Co-Editor of Muslim-Christian Dialogue: Promise & Problems]

interfaith symbolGood to hear. I didn’t really see the point of sitting around and saying, as Cleave puts it, “Well, yah - I mean, I don’t really KNOW that Jesus is the only way, I mean, what’s good for you is good for you, and I guess, well…I’m not quite sure, why, but…yah, I mean…I kind of like Jesus, er…” I’m glad that’s not the kind of interfaith dialogue he’s talking about.

He then says that we must remain open to conversion when dialoguing with people of other faiths:

I think it is important to speak with conviction; but we must also enter into the dialogue with enough humility that we are open to a conversion experience, that we are open to learning more about truth, about the Divine and about Other’s encounters with the Divine. And it is only when we enter into this form of dialogue with our convictions, our beliefs, our differences, our distinctions, and amidst all of these, that we’re able to embrace the Other without diminishing their uniqueness in Creation. It is then that we are able to fully encounter the Other, and in doing so, encounter the Divine.

interfaith symbolI think there’s a mix of good ideas and poppycock in here. On the one hand, I think we can certainly learn from people of other faiths. I respect the intellectual honesty that funds such dialogue. If we are committed to pursuing the truth, we must remain open to changing our beliefs to some extent. I’d certainly hope people of other faiths feel this way, because they’d have to in order to find faith in Jesus, and it’s not fair to demand that of others but not ourselves.

Now for the poppycock. I don’t think “encountering the other” is at all equivalent to encountering the divine. While this is certainly an interesting view of God’s omnipresence and incarnation, I don’t think it does justice to Christian monotheism. It is at this point that I’d like to draw on my recent study of Radical Orthodoxy.

When we say that other religions can teach us about the divine (which I am not capitalizing for reasons which will become clear in a moment), we are implying that God can be known (to some extent, at least) apart from his particular revelation and history with humankind. This is known as “natural theology“:

Natural theology is the knowledge of God accessible to all rational human beings without recourse to any special or supposedly supernatural revelation. The expression ‘natural theology‘ (theologia naturalis) seems to have been first used by Augustine with reference to the deepest theological insights of the classical philosophers. Natural theology (or natural religion) is theology based on reason and ordinary experience. Thus it is distinguished from revealed theology (or revealed religion) which is based on scripture and religious experiences of various kinds; and also from transcendental theology, theology from a priori reasoning (see Immanuel Kant et alia).

Coexist symbolThomas Aquinas believed that natural theology could serve as a foundation for revealed theology, though, suggesting that

there is an objective or neutral reason that determines the shape of truth concerning finite existence, [on the basis of which one can] attempt either to demonstrate Christianity’s consistency with this rational account (as in Bultmann and Tillich) or to demonstrate the truth of Christianity’s account by appealing to neutral principles of truth that are common to all humanity (as in classical apologetics). Smith, 157-158

Radical Orthodoxy suggests (insofar as “it” can suggest things) that natural theology is not a proper or adequate foundation for revealed theology. Natural theology may be able to tell us that God exists, but it cannot tell us what kind of God exists, or even what type of thing a god is. Brian McLaren, in Finding Faith, suggests that any kind of theism (especially monotheism) is better than atheism, because theism at least shares with Christianity the belief that God exists. Radical Orthodoxy points out granting the validity of a generalized theism has the effect of establishing philosophy as an automous and neutral discipline that can and should control the shape of our theology.

If I haven’t driven you away with my little head trip yet, hopefully I can connect this to the interfaith dialogue question. How much value is there in interfaith dialogue if we could gain the same insights from natural theology? If our worldviews, philosophies, epistemologies, and all that other stuff are based on completely different assumptions, what is there to gain?

It sounds like the main benefits are personal: you come to appreciate others more. You see that they aren’t idiots for believing differently from you. They may still be wrong, but you can’t write them off as morons. You come to appreciate the importance of religious freedom and a commitment to truth.

What do you think? Is interfaith dialogue worthwhile?

11 Responses to “Interfaith Dialogue & Radical Orthodoxy”


You make but do not substantiate an assumption here that I find unecessary (and a little arrogant): that God does not “reveal” himself to any other faith but Christianity. This is clearly not the case for at least one other faith (Judaism) and I cannot imagine why we shouldn’t believe it is true of all religions. If God does reveal himself personally to other faiths, then your argument falls apart, because what we can stand to learn from other faiths isn’t limited to “natural” theology.

I for one believe God attempts to reveal himself personally to all humans, to the degree that they will listen or seek him. I think this is a biblical belief, and it resonates with my own pre-Christian experience: God sought me long before I earnestly sought him (and long after, for that matter). Since I also believe that God will reveal aspects of himself that are appropriate for the audience, that means we stand to gain much insight about God from dialogue with persons of other cultures and faiths.

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virusdoc wrote:
You make but do not substantiate an assumption here that I find unecessary (and a little arrogant): that God does not “reveal” himself to any other faith but Christianity.

I’m not sure what you’re getting at. God’s revelation is not faith-restrictive. The revelation of himself in scripture is not only for Christians, but for all who will consider it.

However, from a Christian perspective, God has not revealed himself to other religions but what he has also revealed himself in the Christian Scriptures. Muslim’s, buhdists, etc. have no revelation from God that I as a Christian do not already have.

That being the case, can I learn anything from those of different faiths? Of course I can. They may have greater insights into God’s revealining himself via natural theology. Just because God has revealed himself in nature doesn’t mean that I’ve noticed.

I suppose the same could be said for revealed theology as well. And that would be the point of open dialogue with others who accept the same revelation of God as ourselves.

But if there is any dialogue regarding revealed theology with groups who accept as revelation something I do not (or visa versa), then there must also be persuation to accept or reject what the other accepts or rejects as revealed. Otherwise, what’s the point?

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I agree; I think interfaith dialog is important, but not necessarily for the same reasons stated. Groups can certainly enter into dialog without being inclined or even open to conversion. That does not have to be a factor.

Learning to respect each other’s faith and each person’s right to possess faith for themselves can be the object and positive outcome of such talks. Gaining insight on how we can work together and best appropriate our resources for the common good of humanity, can be another aim while communicating with people’s of other religions.

We can be instructed by the fervor and worship of others. We can possibly learn liturgical aspects of another religion that can be implemented in our worship without doing insult to our faith.

Interfaith dialog represents harmony and peace. Religion will always be a factor in most any human endeavor or domain. Learning the ability to blend these into an amicable and positive relationship is what makes interfaith dialog important. And, as far Christianity is concerned, it should begin with ecumenicalism. If we can’t get along with people who worship God with the concept, then we will never be able to be successful outside our faith.

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