Comments on: The Trinity: Theology’s Structural Motif http://www.radicalcongruency.com/20030930-the-trinity-theologys-structural-motif Spirituality // Technology // Emerging Ecclesiology Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:38:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jared http://www.radicalcongruency.com/20030930-the-trinity-theologys-structural-motif#comment-217 Jared Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 //?p=#comment-217 Haven't read the book, but usually when I see the Spirit and "consummation" in the same breath, I understand it to refer to the continuing work of sanctification. (No need to define sanctification; no doubt we both understand it similarly.) The completion of our sanctification is when we "are holy as He is holy," and that finale is the final consummation of our salvation. That's my guess, anyway. Would be interested in how Grenz and Franke eventually elaborate as you read that far. Haven’t read the book, but usually when I see the Spirit and “consummation” in the same breath, I understand it to refer to the continuing work of sanctification. (No need to define sanctification; no doubt we both understand it similarly.)
The completion of our sanctification is when we “are holy as He is holy,” and that finale is the final consummation of our salvation.

That’s my guess, anyway.
Would be interested in how Grenz and Franke eventually elaborate as you read that far.

]]> By: Justin Baeder http://www.radicalcongruency.com/20030930-the-trinity-theologys-structural-motif#comment-218 Justin Baeder Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 //?p=#comment-218 They mean the consummation of history - the eschatological sense. They continually refer to this concept, though it's not fully developed until the last chapter, which I haven't read yet. Thanks for commenting! They mean the consummation of history - the eschatological sense. They continually refer to this concept, though it’s not fully developed until the last chapter, which I haven’t read yet. Thanks for commenting!

]]> By: Methodius http://www.radicalcongruency.com/20030930-the-trinity-theologys-structural-motif#comment-219 Methodius Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 //?p=#comment-219 I see the triune God involved in every aspect that you have outlined i.e. creation - Spirit brooded, Father spoke the Word - all three involved salvation - Father sent the son who died Spirit resurrects I know that each "person" has a primary role in each of the things in salvation history - I guess I lean more towards the eastern motif of starting with the three and developing a communion of unity. If you have never read "Being as Communion " by John Zizioulas - I recommend that you pick it up - it is great. It is from this book that I started to see the image of God less as me individually(even though it is that) and more as the church - a community of unity reflecting the image of the triune God's unity in community. I see the triune God involved in every aspect that you have outlined
i.e.
creation - Spirit brooded, Father spoke the Word - all three involved
salvation - Father sent the son who died Spirit resurrects

I know that each “person” has a primary role in each of the things in salvation history - I guess I lean more towards the eastern motif of starting with the three and developing a communion of unity.
If you have never read “Being as Communion ” by John Zizioulas - I recommend that you pick it up - it is great. It is from this book that I started to see the image of God less as me individually(even though it is that) and more as the church - a community of unity reflecting the image of the triune God’s unity in community.

]]> By: Karl Thienes http://www.radicalcongruency.com/20030930-the-trinity-theologys-structural-motif#comment-220 Karl Thienes Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 //?p=#comment-220 I heartily second Metropolitan John's excellent book. It's very intellectually challenging...but well worth the effort. It was after reading this that I finally realized how exciting and beautiful Orthodox Trinitarian theology is ...precisely because it isn't dry academic logic for us, but a vision and experience of God; both as he is in His Essence and how we experience him in prayer in His Energies. I heartily second Metropolitan John’s excellent book. It’s very intellectually challenging…but well worth the effort. It was after reading this that I finally realized how exciting and beautiful Orthodox Trinitarian theology is …precisely because it isn’t dry academic logic for us, but a vision and experience of God; both as he is in His Essence and how we experience him in prayer in His Energies.

]]> By: matt http://www.radicalcongruency.com/20030930-the-trinity-theologys-structural-motif#comment-221 matt Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000 //?p=#comment-221 I need to write a short essay on why do christians belive that humans seek community? relating to trinity, kingdom of god social justice. can u please help I need to write a short essay on why do christians belive that humans seek community? relating to trinity, kingdom of god social justice. can u please help

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